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		By: One Frugal Girl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1104651&quot;&gt;Frugal dad&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for this comment. FI can be such a selfish pursuit. If we aren&#039;t careful we continue focusing on piling money into our bank accounts when there are so many other important things in life to pursue. It&#039;s tough to see this while we build our bank accounts, but I hope once people reach FI they will see the beauty in helping others either with their time or money. It&#039;s so much more fulfilling than staring at a large spreadsheet full of numbers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1104651">Frugal dad</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for this comment. FI can be such a selfish pursuit. If we aren&#8217;t careful we continue focusing on piling money into our bank accounts when there are so many other important things in life to pursue. It&#8217;s tough to see this while we build our bank accounts, but I hope once people reach FI they will see the beauty in helping others either with their time or money. It&#8217;s so much more fulfilling than staring at a large spreadsheet full of numbers.</p>
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		By: Frugal dad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I a am a year late.
This is another of your great posts.  There is no easy answer and people sometimes seem to look for a quick fix.  After reading many of your entries it seems pretty clear that money is not even the answer.
FI has been criticized rightfully so that the principal of FIRE often does not leave room for our contribution to society including paying taxes, sharing healthcare costs and doing things that don’t enhance your net worth.
I feel you are correct to keep frugal in your blog name even though you are not skimping by anymore.  You took control of your life and created options, congratulations.  Now the hard part begins.  Figure out what your legacy to your kids and this world will be.
To me you just decided to live within your means and that raising your children was actually important to you.  The Bible says love thyself as you love others.  2000 year old wisdom works even for atheists.
Be proud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I a am a year late.<br />
This is another of your great posts.  There is no easy answer and people sometimes seem to look for a quick fix.  After reading many of your entries it seems pretty clear that money is not even the answer.<br />
FI has been criticized rightfully so that the principal of FIRE often does not leave room for our contribution to society including paying taxes, sharing healthcare costs and doing things that don’t enhance your net worth.<br />
I feel you are correct to keep frugal in your blog name even though you are not skimping by anymore.  You took control of your life and created options, congratulations.  Now the hard part begins.  Figure out what your legacy to your kids and this world will be.<br />
To me you just decided to live within your means and that raising your children was actually important to you.  The Bible says love thyself as you love others.  2000 year old wisdom works even for atheists.<br />
Be proud.</p>
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		By: One Frugal Girl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 17:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1082850&quot;&gt;Mary&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mary, Thank you for your comment. I do not have societal expectations to help my family members, but I do believe I will need to help my parents one day. It is difficult to decide how and when to help, especially when external forces are pushing us in specific directions. You are not alone in your thoughts and feelings. A lot of people feel the same burdens and struggle with these decisions, especially when spouses are involved. Having already reached FI I will say that it&#039;s easier now to give than it has ever been for me. The reason is two-fold. First, I simply see the need to acquire less stuff. Second, the less stuff I buy the more my money is freed for other purposes. Of course, it is much easier to give now that we aren&#039;t still trying to accumulate the pile of money too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1082850">Mary</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mary, Thank you for your comment. I do not have societal expectations to help my family members, but I do believe I will need to help my parents one day. It is difficult to decide how and when to help, especially when external forces are pushing us in specific directions. You are not alone in your thoughts and feelings. A lot of people feel the same burdens and struggle with these decisions, especially when spouses are involved. Having already reached FI I will say that it&#8217;s easier now to give than it has ever been for me. The reason is two-fold. First, I simply see the need to acquire less stuff. Second, the less stuff I buy the more my money is freed for other purposes. Of course, it is much easier to give now that we aren&#8217;t still trying to accumulate the pile of money too.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2019 05:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This question usually keeps me up most nights. I am happily married with two kids: 3-year old boy and 7-month old baby girl. My husband and I are both working, although he takes home 4x than what I do. Now my problem is, my side of the family is always in need of money. Medical emergency, tuition fees, school supplies. Among my siblings, I was the only one who got a permanent job with good pay. I used to shoulder these things when I was still single, but it&#039;s different now that I have a family of my own. I come from the typical Asian family where the one with the good pay is the one who shoulders almost everything. Yes, children&#039;s financial dependency to parents or parents&#039; financial dependency on their children is a very common culture from I am from. It came to a point where my mother wanted to shoulder my sister&#039;s home repair &quot;if she (my mother) had the money&quot; as if saying that I could do it since I do have the means to do so. But no, I did not and definitely will not. Where I&#039;m from, this is usually frowned upon. I kept thinking that I must be so selfish for not even bothering to lend my sister money to repair their house. My sister doesn&#039;t have a job, and relies on her spouse (who earns on minimum) for their daily expenses. If I offer to lend money, I might as well say goodbye to that money since I know I will not be paid back. Or if I do get paid, I will not get paid in full, like it has always been.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question usually keeps me up most nights. I am happily married with two kids: 3-year old boy and 7-month old baby girl. My husband and I are both working, although he takes home 4x than what I do. Now my problem is, my side of the family is always in need of money. Medical emergency, tuition fees, school supplies. Among my siblings, I was the only one who got a permanent job with good pay. I used to shoulder these things when I was still single, but it&#8217;s different now that I have a family of my own. I come from the typical Asian family where the one with the good pay is the one who shoulders almost everything. Yes, children&#8217;s financial dependency to parents or parents&#8217; financial dependency on their children is a very common culture from I am from. It came to a point where my mother wanted to shoulder my sister&#8217;s home repair &#8220;if she (my mother) had the money&#8221; as if saying that I could do it since I do have the means to do so. But no, I did not and definitely will not. Where I&#8217;m from, this is usually frowned upon. I kept thinking that I must be so selfish for not even bothering to lend my sister money to repair their house. My sister doesn&#8217;t have a job, and relies on her spouse (who earns on minimum) for their daily expenses. If I offer to lend money, I might as well say goodbye to that money since I know I will not be paid back. Or if I do get paid, I will not get paid in full, like it has always been.</p>
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		By: OFG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2019 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1057329&quot;&gt;Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life&lt;/a&gt;.

I think of life as one big circle. Life is not a straight line with a destination pointing to one place, it is a round line that encompasses our past, present and future. What kind of a world would we have if everyone simply took and no one had any time or money to give? You know sometimes I don&#039;t even think it&#039;s huge acts of compassion. Sometimes it&#039;s noticing the elderly woman in the grocery store that needs help getting a cart or holding a door for an extra minute for the mom with a stroller. When we come from a place of giving we can see those tiny acts and build a compassionate life moment by moment. Sometimes we need to set aside busy and accomplished for being human.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1057329">Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life</a>.</p>
<p>I think of life as one big circle. Life is not a straight line with a destination pointing to one place, it is a round line that encompasses our past, present and future. What kind of a world would we have if everyone simply took and no one had any time or money to give? You know sometimes I don&#8217;t even think it&#8217;s huge acts of compassion. Sometimes it&#8217;s noticing the elderly woman in the grocery store that needs help getting a cart or holding a door for an extra minute for the mom with a stroller. When we come from a place of giving we can see those tiny acts and build a compassionate life moment by moment. Sometimes we need to set aside busy and accomplished for being human.</p>
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		By: OFG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2019 02:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1057262&quot;&gt;Angela @ Tread Lightly Retire Early&lt;/a&gt;.

When we focus too narrowly on any one thing it is difficult to see that other things are going on around us. As I age I realize how important it is to be mindful of my surroundings and always look up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1057262">Angela @ Tread Lightly Retire Early</a>.</p>
<p>When we focus too narrowly on any one thing it is difficult to see that other things are going on around us. As I age I realize how important it is to be mindful of my surroundings and always look up.</p>
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		By: OFG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2019 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1056972&quot;&gt;Steveark&lt;/a&gt;.

That is an excellent point. Those who are greedy are typically disliked. Just as those who are selfish or self-serving. Generosity of the spirit involves a general sense of giving of yourself, not just giving time or money, but also kindness, compassion, empathy, etc. I always enjoy your comments and thank you for contributing to the conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.onefrugalgirl.com/is-the-pursuit-of-financial-independence-inherently-selfish/comment-page-1/#comment-1056972">Steveark</a>.</p>
<p>That is an excellent point. Those who are greedy are typically disliked. Just as those who are selfish or self-serving. Generosity of the spirit involves a general sense of giving of yourself, not just giving time or money, but also kindness, compassion, empathy, etc. I always enjoy your comments and thank you for contributing to the conversation.</p>
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		By: Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 18:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tend to think the pursuit of FI just enhances whoever you were before. 

The inherently selfish will always find reasons not to give back and to justify it, often using their pursuit of FI as one justification. &quot;I&#039;ll give later&quot; they say. (Later never comes.) The inherently generous will always find ways to give - time, money, activism, something. 

Those of us in between the two poles figure out where to be depending on our nature. 

I have a scarcity mentality and so I combat that with giving because I know it&#039;s the right thing to do, because I remember that others were generous to me when they didn&#039;t have to be and that made an enormous difference in my life and later on, in my family&#039;s lives. I don&#039;t need to know that we were that difference for someone else. I just need to do my part to be a giver in the ecosystem, not just a taker.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think the pursuit of FI just enhances whoever you were before. </p>
<p>The inherently selfish will always find reasons not to give back and to justify it, often using their pursuit of FI as one justification. &#8220;I&#8217;ll give later&#8221; they say. (Later never comes.) The inherently generous will always find ways to give &#8211; time, money, activism, something. </p>
<p>Those of us in between the two poles figure out where to be depending on our nature. </p>
<p>I have a scarcity mentality and so I combat that with giving because I know it&#8217;s the right thing to do, because I remember that others were generous to me when they didn&#8217;t have to be and that made an enormous difference in my life and later on, in my family&#8217;s lives. I don&#8217;t need to know that we were that difference for someone else. I just need to do my part to be a giver in the ecosystem, not just a taker.</p>
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		By: Angela @ Tread Lightly Retire Early		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 14:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“If I spent nearly every waking minute thinking about earning more and spending less than how could I make time for other non-financial ventures?” 

It’s definitely something that can be a problem in the FIRE space (or, as you acknowledged, any space during career building time in particular). Kind of like the way frugality can go too far, I think so can this pursuit of more money and more career.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If I spent nearly every waking minute thinking about earning more and spending less than how could I make time for other non-financial ventures?” </p>
<p>It’s definitely something that can be a problem in the FIRE space (or, as you acknowledged, any space during career building time in particular). Kind of like the way frugality can go too far, I think so can this pursuit of more money and more career.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 01:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think if you don&#039;t give of your time and money you will limit your earning potential.  Selfish people rarely make top salaries and rarely advance in their careers.  Generous people are liked and trusted,  necessary factors in corporate success.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you don&#8217;t give of your time and money you will limit your earning potential.  Selfish people rarely make top salaries and rarely advance in their careers.  Generous people are liked and trusted,  necessary factors in corporate success.</p>
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